[Cwo] 2014 Summary Before Voting

Tue Sep 17 18:29:51 PDT 2013

In light of Jim's, John's and Al's reasoned replies, I would like to
change my vote (again) to Sep 6, also. I don't believe we're really at
risk for other than the latter hours of session 3 - a risk I'm obviously
willing to take.

So, if I'm keeping proper track, we have 4 votes now for Sep 6
(Jim, John, Al and Rob). But, remember, I've empowered Dean to make the
final decision. So, despite our protestations, he may decide to go
with Aug 23. And, if he does, he's entitled.

Rob K6RB

It seems to be coming down to a choice of avoiding the JA hamfest or
avoiding NA Sprint.

Participation in the first two CWOs were mainly NA hams with a small
spattering of EU and hardly any AS or SA.

This year, it seems EU and AS participation was way up, which is
wonderful. The JA increase is probably due to K6RBs' trip to the last
Tokyo hamfest.

Question: Do we want to continue to expand into a worldwide competition or
narrow it to NA? (or NA + EU)?

We'll upset some folks either way, the NA Sprinters will be more vocal.
That said, I would still lean toward 6 Sept to keep the JA population
growing and use 23 Aug as additional JA publicity at the Tokyo Ham Fair
like K6RB did this year. 

that's my 2c worth ...

73, Alan  AD6E

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:48 PM, John Miller
webaron at gmail.com> wrote:

Although I still prefer 13-September,
I'm aware of the potential drama with FOC --- so set that date aside.

23-August:  
a.  The OH and HI QSO parties conflict.
b.  Based on 2013 dates, the KS QSO party will likely also be
held the weekend of 23-August:  http://qsoparty.eqth.net/
c.  I happen to enjoy these 3 QSO parties.  All are
well-run and fun to operate.
d.  Tokyo Ham Fair?  Hard to factor it in or out but if we
avoid this weekend -- at least we can cleanly promote CWO for a different
weekend.

06-September:
a.  Labor Day is Monday, September 1, 2014.  So if CWO is
held Friday night/Saturday = 05/06-September, it would be after Labor Day
weekend -- a good thing.
b.  Sprint CW analysis:  This Sept. there were 166 NA
Sprint CW logs submitted:  http://www.ncjweb.com/cwsprintlogs.php
Cross-checking with the CWops roster, shows that of the 166
participants,  57 were CWops members = 34%.  Depending on your
viewpoint, you could argue that's a large or a small percentage of
overlap.  Either way, there's no overlap in time with CWO.
c.  No conflict with the Tokyo Ham Fair.

If we're down to these two dates, my preference would
be 06-September.

73,

John K6MM

On Sep 17, 2013, at 4:34 AM, D Faklis wrote:

I have tried to capture the meat of the concensus building
process.  I'm sure I missed some of the discussions.  Please
check me carefully.  This email was sent to CWO at KKN.net and I assume that everyone involved
receives reflector emails. 

Starting at the beginning:

What is the "new date?" Is it last zulu Friday in August?
Or zulu Friday of first (partial) weekend in September? Or ... ?

73, Hank, W6SX

Good question Hank.  I think we decided on the first (partial)
weekend in Sept. Be it Sat Aug 31 (zulu) like this year or first Sept
Saturday (zulu).  Need to look at the 2014 contest calendar and see
if that's a problem or not.  I haven't done that. Might be we were
just lucky this year with the split weekend.

73, Alan, AD6E

If we make it last weekend of August, it would be Aug 30 2014. If we
keep it first full or partial weekend in September, it will be Sep 6
2014.

Rob K6RB

Then, for these dates, YODX and NA Sprint are identified as concerns
by the group.  A search for a new date begins.  Conflicts are
identified by the group.

Primary conflicts:  Tokyo Ham Fair (23 AUG 14), YODX (30 AUG
14), NA Sprint (7 SEP 14), FOC (13 SEP 14), SAC CW (20 SEP 14), CQWW RTTY
(27 SEP 14)

Secondary conflicts: HIQP and OHQP (23 AUG 14), WAQP (20 SEP 14),
TXQP (27 SEP 14)

Unknown potential conflicts: KSQP (23 AUG 14)

YODX, FOC and CQWW RTTY achieve "keep out" status by the
group:  30 AUG, 13 SEP, 27 SEP are essentially deemed no good by the
group.

This leaves 23 AUG, 6 SEP, and 20 SEP as possibilities around this
timeframe.

Review 23 AUG:  Tokyo Ham Fair, HIQP and OHQP are
conflicts.  KSQP may be a conflict.

Review 6 SEP:  NA Sprint conflict.  No overlap in time; Sprint
begins when CW Open would end.

Review 20 SEP:  SAC CW and WAQP are conflicts

Analysis 23 AUG:  In 2013, there was no conflict with Tokyo Ham
Fair and 6 JA logs have been received out of a total of 246 for Session
1.  >90 logs from EU/W.Asia.  Remainder NA.  I have not
processed Session 2 or 3.  HI and OH QPs take in about 200 logs
each.  Most of the group feels that concurrent state QPs will not
impact the CWO greatly.  

Analysis 6 SEP:   45% overlap in operators
Sprint/CWO.  W6SX, NW2K, N3JT weigh this data against a 6 SEP
CWO.  K6RB and AD6E are leaning OK with 6 SEP.  I can't find
evidence on where W1RM, K6MM, NO5W stand on this date. 

Analysis 20 SEP:  SAC CW seems to be a late addition to the
discussion.  Here is a link to some stats:  http://www.sactest.net/blog/statistics/ 
1200 logs received in 2012.  92 logs from NA.  874 logs from
EU.  146 logs from Asia.  RST and serial number.

Proposed Cull:  20 SEP (SAC CW) seems more occupied than 30 AUG
(YODX)

Please comment on this email and its assumptions and please decide if
20 SEP should be removed from consideration.  After the comment
period, I'd like to convene a vote.

Thanks!
73, Dean, NW2K 

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