[Cwo] 2014 Summary Before Voting

Tue Sep 17 16:51:54 PDT 2013

It seems to be coming down to a choice of avoiding the JA hamfest or
avoiding NA Sprint.

Participation in the first two CWOs were mainly NA hams with a small
spattering of EU and hardly any AS or SA.
This year, it seems EU and AS participation was way up, which is wonderful.
The JA increase is probably due to K6RBs' trip to the last Tokyo hamfest.

Question: Do we want to continue to expand into a worldwide competition or
narrow it to NA? (or NA + EU)?

We'll upset some folks either way, the NA Sprinters will be more vocal.
That said, I would still lean toward 6 Sept to keep the JA population
growing and use 23 Aug as additional JA publicity at the Tokyo Ham Fair
like K6RB did this year.

that's my 2c worth ...
73, Alan  AD6E

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:48 PM, John Miller <webaron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Although I still prefer 13-September, I'm aware of the potential drama
> with FOC --- so set that date aside.
>
> 23-August:
> a.  The OH and HI QSO parties conflict.
> b.  Based on 2013 dates, the KS QSO party will likely also be held the
> weekend of 23-August:  http://qsoparty.eqth.net/
> c.  I happen to enjoy these 3 QSO parties.  All are well-run and fun to
> operate.
> d.  Tokyo Ham Fair?  Hard to factor it in or out but if we avoid this
> weekend -- at least we can cleanly promote CWO for a different weekend.
>
> 06-September:
> a.  Labor Day is Monday, September 1, 2014.  So if CWO is held Friday
> night/Saturday = 05/06-September, it would be after Labor Day weekend -- a
> good thing.
> b.  Sprint CW analysis:  This Sept. there were 166 NA Sprint CW logs
> submitted:  http://www.ncjweb.com/cwsprintlogs.php
> Cross-checking with the CWops roster, shows that of the 166 participants,
>  57 were CWops members = 34%.  Depending on your viewpoint, you could argue
> that's a large or a small percentage of overlap.  Either way, there's no
> overlap in time with CWO.
> c.  No conflict with the Tokyo Ham Fair.
>
> If we're down to these two dates, my preference would be 06-September.
>
> 73,
> John K6MM
>
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 4:34 AM, D Faklis wrote:
>
> I have tried to capture the meat of the concensus building process.  I'm
> sure I missed some of the discussions.  Please check me carefully.  This
> email was sent to CWO at KKN.net and I assume that everyone involved
> receives reflector emails.
>
> Starting at the beginning:
>
> What is the "new date?" Is it last zulu Friday in August? Or zulu Friday
> of first (partial) weekend in September? Or ... ?
> 73, Hank, W6SX
>
> Good question Hank.  I think we decided on the first (partial) weekend in
> Sept. Be it Sat Aug 31 (zulu) like this year or first Sept Saturday
> (zulu).  Need to look at the 2014 contest calendar and see if that's a
> problem or not.  I haven't done that. Might be we were just lucky this year
> with the split weekend.
> 73, Alan, AD6E
>
> If we make it last weekend of August, it would be Aug 30 2014. If we keep
> it first full or partial weekend in September, it will be Sep 6 2014.
> Rob K6RB
>
> Then, for these dates, YODX and NA Sprint are identified as concerns by
> the group.  A search for a new date begins.  Conflicts are identified by
> the group.
>
> Primary conflicts:  Tokyo Ham Fair (23 AUG 14), YODX (30 AUG 14), NA
> Sprint (7 SEP 14), FOC (13 SEP 14), SAC CW (20 SEP 14), CQWW RTTY (27 SEP
> 14)
>
> Secondary conflicts: HIQP and OHQP (23 AUG 14), WAQP (20 SEP 14), TXQP (27
> SEP 14)
>
> Unknown potential conflicts: KSQP (23 AUG 14)
>
> YODX, FOC and CQWW RTTY achieve "keep out" status by the group:  30 AUG,
> 13 SEP, 27 SEP are essentially deemed no good by the group.
>
> This leaves 23 AUG, 6 SEP, and 20 SEP as possibilities around this
> timeframe.
>
> Review 23 AUG:  Tokyo Ham Fair, HIQP and OHQP are conflicts.  KSQP may be
> a conflict.
> Review 6 SEP:  NA Sprint conflict.  No overlap in time; Sprint begins when
> CW Open would end.
> Review 20 SEP:  SAC CW and WAQP are conflicts
>
> Analysis 23 AUG:  In 2013, there was no conflict with Tokyo Ham Fair and 6
> JA logs have been received out of a total of 246 for Session 1.  >90 logs
> from EU/W.Asia.  Remainder NA.  I have not processed Session 2 or 3.  HI
> and OH QPs take in about 200 logs each.  Most of the group feels that
> concurrent state QPs will not impact the CWO greatly.
> Analysis 6 SEP:   45% overlap in operators Sprint/CWO.  W6SX, NW2K, N3JT
> weigh this data against a 6 SEP CWO.  K6RB and AD6E are leaning OK with 6
> SEP.  I can't find evidence on where W1RM, K6MM, NO5W stand on this date.
> Analysis 20 SEP:  SAC CW seems to be a late addition to the discussion.
> Here is a link to some stats:  http://www.sactest.net/blog/statistics/
> 1200 logs received in 2012.  92 logs from NA.  874 logs from EU.  146 logs
> from Asia.  RST and serial number.
>
> Proposed Cull:  20 SEP (SAC CW) seems more occupied than 30 AUG (YODX)
>
> Please comment on this email and its assumptions and please decide if 20
> SEP should be removed from consideration.  After the comment period, I'd
> like to convene a vote.
>
> Thanks!
> 73, Dean, NW2K
>
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