[Cwo] 2014 CW Open and YO DX HF Contest

[Jim]

Avoiding conflicts with FOC is an absolute if only to avoid giving our detractors ammunition.  FOC is a very self-important organization and they ascribe nefarious motives at the tip of a hat.  Otherwise, though, no problem!


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From: Peter Chamalian W1RM <w1rm at comcast.net> 
Date: 09/10/2013  12:30 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'John Miller' <webaron at gmail.com>,'Hank Garretson' <w6sx at arrl.net> 
Cc: cwo at kkn.net,'Dean Faklis' <nw2k at arrl.net> 
Subject: Re: [Cwo] 2014 CW Open and YO DX HF Contest 
 
They haven’t yet but I’ll bet they will and they will piss and moan about CWops.  To nip this in the bud, I think KZ5D and KR3E should be consulted before we land on the 13th.  Note that the FOC event is not a contest in the same sense that the other events are although those who get into it treat it as such much like the ardent FD groups treat FD as a contest.
 
We got into a lot of hot water with FOC when the first CWops gathering was scheduled in Plymouth on the very weekend that FOC had its annual gathering in the UK.  I caught a lot of heat and hate mail as a result.
 
 
Pete, W1RM
 
From: cwo-bounces at kkn.net [mailto:cwo-bounces at kkn.net] On Behalf Of John Miller
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:51 AM
To: Hank Garretson
Cc: cwo at kkn.net; Dean Faklis
Subject: Re: [Cwo] 2014 CW Open and YO DX HF Contest
 
I'm a little late to this discussion, and perhaps I've missed something, but what's wrong with the weekend of September 12-13, 2014?
 
The only contests I see scheduled for that weekend are:
 
WAE DX SSB
SKCC (Straight Key Century Club) Weekend Sprintathon
ARRL VHF Contest
NA Sprint, SSB
Swiss HTC QRP 
 
Most are non-CW contests, and none would appear to be a major conflict with CWO.  No state QSO parties.  No YO DX contest.
 
And FOC hasn't scheduled anything for September 2014 yet:
 
http://www.g4foc.org/calendar?EventViewMode=1&EventListViewMode=2&SelectedDate=9/10/2014&CalendarViewType=0
 
My suggestion:
 
Session
Date
Time
1
September 13, 2014
0000 - 0359z
2
September 13, 2014
1200 - 1559z
3
September 13, 2014
2000 - 2359z
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
73,
John K6MM
 
On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Hank Garretson wrote:


Good Morning All,

I am about to violate my personal rule about "criticizing" and not offering a good alternative. But ...

I don't have a good feeling about Session 3 followed immediately (or even on the same weekend) as NA CW Sprint.

CW Sprint is an intense contest that demands full concentration. At least for me, switching gears from CWO Session 3 to Sprint would not work. One or the other or more likely both would suffer.

CW Sprinters are guys we would like to have in CWops, CWTs, and CWOs. Let's make it easy for them instead of conflicting. 

73,

Hank, W6SX
 

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:59 AM, <k6rb at baymoon.com> wrote:
Chip's point makes total sense. They have been doing it on the last full weekend of August; we have the last two years been doing it on the first full or partial weekend of September.

Can we agree to do it on Sep 6? That would be totally consistent with our past practice...and not put us in conflict with anything significant. The NA Sprint which follows our session 3 does not conflict. It follows only one session of the event.

In years passed, NA Sprint also conflicted with an FOC event. FOCers would break out of their event - do the Sprint - then resume the FOC event. In our case, it's not even an issue.

Let's give it a try. This is a better solution than conflicting with YO DX and the state QSO parties. Can we get a consensus?

Rob K6RB

 
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