[Cwo] 2014 CW Open and YO DX HF Contest

Tue Sep 10 10:07:08 PDT 2013

Rob:

Not sure I see the problem.  In 2012, FOC held it's QSO party on September 22 --- the 4th weekend of the month,

http://www.g4foc.org/calendar?EventViewMode=1&EventListViewMode=2&SelectedDate=9/10/2012&CalendarViewType=0

We announce CWO for Sep 13, 2014 -- the second weekend of the month.

They can hold FOC in 2014 the weekend of either Sept 20 or Sept 27 -- the third or fourth weekend of the month, in the usual fashion.

The NA Spring SSB contest from 0000-0400 on Sept. 14 is a low participation contest that won't conflict at all time-wise with CWO.   And WAE SSB vs CWO?  Different animals altogether.

Again, I don't see the conflict.

73,
John K6MM

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:48 AM, k6rb at baymoon.com wrote:

> I would argue that banging up against NA Sprint SSB and WAE on Sep 13...and possibly FOC QSO Party...is worse than banging up against NA Sprint CW. I agree with Hank that those who do Sprint go all out. That said, we do not overlap that contest by even a second. I'm willing to risk some reduction in participation in session 3 to avoid collisions with true international contests such as WAE and YO DX. As I've said before, it ain't going to be perfect, but I think Sep 6 is: a) consistent with our current 'first partial or full weekend of Sept.' b) is marginally impacted by a US/CA/NA contest. The only way we could avoid collisions is to have CW Open on a weekday! If the ham population continues to keep aging, that may very well be the ideal scenario, too.
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> I vote for Sept. 6 for all the reasons I've stated.
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> Rob K6RB
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> They haven’t yet but I’ll bet they will and they will piss and moan about CWops. To nip this in the bud, I think KZ5D and KR3E should be consulted before we land on the 13th. Note that the FOC event is not a contest in the same sense that the other events are although those who get into it treat it as such much like the ardent FD groups treat FD as a contest.
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> We got into a lot of hot water with FOC when the first CWops gathering was scheduled in Plymouth on the very weekend that FOC had its annual gathering in the UK. I caught a lot of heat and hate mail as a result.
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> Pete, W1RM
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> From: cwo-bounces at kkn.net [mailto:cwo-bounces at kkn.net] On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:51 AM
> To: Hank Garretson
> Cc: cwo at kkn.net; Dean Faklis
> Subject: Re: [Cwo] 2014 CW Open and YO DX HF Contest
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> I'm a little late to this discussion, and perhaps I've missed something, but what's wrong with the weekend of September 12-13, 2014?
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> The only contests I see scheduled for that weekend are:
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> WAE DX SSB
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> SKCC (Straight Key Century Club) Weekend Sprintathon
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> ARRL VHF Contest
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> NA Sprint, SSB
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> Swiss HTC QRP
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> Most are non-CW contests, and none would appear to be a major conflict with CWO. No state QSO parties. No YO DX contest.
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> And FOC hasn't scheduled anything for September 2014 yet:
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> http://www.g4foc.org/calendar?EventViewMode=1&EventListViewMode=2&SelectedDate=9/10/2014&CalendarViewType=0
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> My suggestion:
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> Session
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> Date
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> Time
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> 1
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> September 13, 2014
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> 0000 - 0359z
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> 2
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> September 13, 2014
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> 1200 - 1559z
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> 3
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> September 13, 2014
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> 2000 - 2359z
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> 73,
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> John K6MM
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> On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Hank Garretson wrote:
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> Good Morning All,
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> I am about to violate my personal rule about "criticizing" and not offering a good alternative. But ...
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> I don't have a good feeling about Session 3 followed immediately (or even on the same weekend) as NA CW Sprint.
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> CW Sprint is an intense contest that demands full concentration. At least for me, switching gears from CWO Session 3 to Sprint would not work. One or the other or more likely both would suffer.
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> CW Sprinters are guys we would like to have in CWops, CWTs, and CWOs. Let's make it easy for them instead of conflicting. 
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> 73,
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> Hank, W6SX
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> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:59 AM, k6rb at baymoon.com> wrote:
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> Chip's point makes total sense. They have been doing it on the last full weekend of August; we have the last two years been doing it on the first full or partial weekend of September.
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> Can we agree to do it on Sep 6? That would be totally consistent with our past practice...and not put us in conflict with anything significant. The NA Sprint which follows our session 3 does not conflict. It follows only one session of the event.
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> In years passed, NA Sprint also conflicted with an FOC event. FOCers would break out of their event - do the Sprint - then resume the FOC event. In our case, it's not even an issue.
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> Let's give it a try. This is a better solution than conflicting with YO DX and the state QSO parties. Can we get a consensus?
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> Rob K6RB
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