Marvin, I found this http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8 <http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=38.926556,-120.060686&spn=0.002 045,0.003659&t=h&om=1> &z=18&ll=38.926556,-120.060686&spn=0.002045,0.003659&t=h&om=1 Camp Concord so it looks like Jay W6JAY and will be driving (about 9 hours) to get there. 73, Richard WA6NOL