[Cwo] CW OPEN sked change

[John Miller]

It's been less than 24 hours since CWO ended.  No need to rush into any decisions now.

My best advice:

Relax.  Enjoy the moment.  Give each other a High Five for a job well done.  Adjudicate the CWO 2011 logs to make sure the contest outcome is accurate and reliable. 

Then let's take up this discussion at a point when we all have more information to decide how to make CWO an ever better experience next year.

73,
John, K6MM

On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Rob wrote:

> Gents:
>  
> I've had another look at the perpetual calendar and the last weekend of September (which precedes by one week the Cal QSO Party) has only one conflict - RSGB 80 M Club Contest, that goes for a few hours and is confined to RSGB members and 80 meters. This looks like a weekend that would have virtually no big conflicts. I found that the IOTA thing at the end of July had about 650 CW logs submitted (almost all from EU). That's a lot.
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> By doing it then we get the benefit of earlier darkness in session 2 which could allow for earlier 40 meter opening; longer darkness path between west coast US and points west (e.g. JA and VK/ZL); and the possibility of much greater EU participation.
>  
> So, my current recommendation would be to go with last weekend of September. What say?
>  
> Rob K6RB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Maenchen
> To: Rob
> Cc: Peter Chamalian ; Jim Talens ; KZ5D at aol.com ; cwo at kkn.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: CW OPEN sked change
> 
> I've been on an IOTA expedition and generated some HUGE pileups. It's a big deal in EU and growing in NA.
> 
> Need to look at the rules to see if the split format of CWO would really cause trouble or not.  We assumed RDA was no big deal either and learned the hard way not to brush off these events as "minor". 
> 
> Alan
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> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Rob <k6rb at baymoon.com> wrote:
> Alan,
>  
> I would opt for doing the CW OPEN on the 4th weekend of August. The only conflict is RSGB IOTA. Big deal! We might lose K6VVA in that one (hi). It would avoid a lot of other stuff and still have the event occur roughly around the time it did this time. Having a winter CWO would be tough but perhaps there's a possibility. I would rather get an annual CWO refined to where it was a well-attended and fun event. We're definitely on the way to accomplishing that.
>  
> Rob K6RB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Maenchen
> To: Bruce Horn
> Cc: Rob ; Peter Chamalian ; Jim Talens ; KZ5D at aol.com ; cwo at kkn.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: CW OPEN sked change
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> Look at the positive side:  I made a bunch of QSOs in NAQP SSB while waiting for the next CWO session.  I would not have made any SSB QSOs if it were not for CWO.   :-)    I'd like to see data on how CWO affected NAQP participation this year. My gut feel is that it was a minimal impact, but I could be wrong.  I love NAQP CW, but I've never entered the SSB (or RTTY) version.
> 
> The big problem for CWO was RDA and Keyman contests.  It's impossible to pick any weekend that has no conflicts. However, I think we were clobbered by those two events that limited CWO to a NA only event.  That is unfortunate.  Interestingly, we only received one complaint about stepping on those toes.  That was from a DL who warned about the RDA activity.
> 
> I agree with Rob that it was too early in the planning stage to do a July event. However, we need to think seriously about a different date.  I've already had a request for a winter CWO, but I doubt that would be possible.
> 
> 73, Alan  AD6E
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> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Bruce Horn <bhorn at hornucopia.com> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> As the manager of the NAQP SSB contest I certainly would like to see the CW Open moved to a weekend that didn't conflict with the NAQP, which has been scheduled on the 3rd full weekend in August for a very long time. However, the 3rd weekend in July is the perpetual date of the NAQP-RTTY contest.
> 
> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
> 
> From: "Rob" <k6rb at baymoon.com>
> To: "Bruce Horn" <bhorn at hornucopia.com>
> Cc: "Alan Maenchen" <ad6e at arrl.net>, "Peter Chamalian" <w1rm at arrl.net>, "Jim Talens" <jtalens at verizon.net>, KZ5D at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:54:38 AM
> Subject: CW OPEN sked change
> 
> 
> Bruce,
>  
> I think there's a concensus to change the date for next year's CW OPEN to that weekend in July (July 23, 2011, this year) where there are virtually no conflicts. We were too far down the road, this year, to change it. I see in your perpetual calendar that that weekend looks really good. Has anything changed on that score? If not, I would estimate it's about a 99 percent likelihood that next year's CW OPEN and all subsequent ones will be on that third weekend of July timeframe.
>  
> This year, we ran into some problems because of the Russian RDA and Japan's "keyman." We'd like to avoid that conflict and the one with NAQP SSB, too.
>  
> Let me know. Thanks for your major help in score submittal, Bruce. It makes a huge difference.
>  
> Rob K6RB
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