[ARDF] ARDF Digest, Vol 101, Issue 1

Mon Jan 2 05:53:29 PST 2012

Application you make much needed for our sport popularization. List of features is increadible and I am sure can be extended. Any compass-related issues can be worked out either with external compass module or with help of gps. Gps will not help when you do not move, but when you move it can assist compass and downgrade errors.
Take a look at this app on appstore:
"You R Here" - it takes picture of map board with built in camera, then you can calibrate map and run. Having similar feature in your app would be nice.
"FoxHunt" - is another application to look at.
They are not even close to what you are trying to achieve,and very limited but worth to look at.
You are doing great job and if you need help with debugging let me know, I have all apple development tools installed.

Sent from iPhone

Jan 1, 2012, в 15:00, ardf-request at kkn.net написал(а):

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>   1. Re: Looking ahead to ARDF apps (in 2012) (Charles Scharlau)
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> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:22:49 -0500
> From: Charles Scharlau <charles.scharlau at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ARDF] Looking ahead to ARDF apps (in 2012)
> To: ardf at kkn.net
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> A digital compass like those used in mobile devices are a different beast
> from the common mechanical bar-magnet compasses we're all used to . Both
> are subject to errors from various causes. But by their different natures
> they require different treatment in order to get good accuracy.
> 
> Smart phones (Android, iOS, BlackBerry, etc.) all use 3-axis digital
> compass modules, and 3-axis digital accelerometers, in unison to generate
> tilt-compensated magnetic compass data. It is quite remarkable how well
> their compasses work in any physical orientation, even holding the phone
> vertically or upside down. Try that with your average bar magnet compass.
> 
> But as you note, digital compasses are subject to losing their calibration.
> And when they lose calibration, they are subject to providing ridiculously
> large errors, even showing 180-degrees opposite what they should!
> 
> But I've found that it is possible to get good reliable magnetic bearings
> from these mobile devices. Possibly Apple has introduced some improvements
> in their compass algorithms with iOS 4.x and 5.x, since it seems to me that
> reliability has improved with time on our iPhone 3Gs.
> 
> Also, I found that when I stopped carrying my mechanical compass with me
> that the cell phone compass instantly began performing much better. The
> strong magnet in the mechanical compass was wreaking havoc on the cell
> phone's compass calibration!
> 
> I've found that the following rules, if followed carefully, allow my Apple
> products give good bearings:
> 
> 1. Keep the phone away from strong external magnetic fields. That includes:
> mechanical compasses! car hoods and roofs; wires carrying currents (e.g.,
> under the dash board); ear phones, other cell phones, or anything with a
> speaker; fingernail clippers, scissors, knives, or anything made of a
> ferrous material. Try to keep the phone at least 1 meter away from any of
> those things after it has been calibrated.
> 
> 2. Carefully calibrate your phone before trying to use it for
> heading/bearing measurements. Smart phones will calibrate their compasses
> automatically, and continuously. They can even determine when their own
> calibration is seriously out of whack, and they will prompt you to do the
> "magic wave" when it is required. But you should do that wave at least once
> before using it, even if it isn't prompting you!
> 
> 3. Calibrate by slowly rotating the phone 1080-degrees (3 full rotations)
> in all three rotational directions. The phone must be turned on at the
> time, and held away from any strong external magnetic fields (see 1 above).
> Don't even think about calibrating it in the car.
> 
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> 
> The great circle calculations used in the app you sent me must have been an
> early version. They appeared to be an attempt at implementing the following
> formulae in C:
> 
> http://williams.best.vwh.net/avform.htm
> 
> The app contained several errors that prevented it from giving reliable
> results. I restarted from Mr. Williams' formulae which are used in many
> calculations within my app. If you're interested I can provide you with the
> Objective-C class I created for great circle math - it works well.
> 
> =========
> 
> The web site you reference from 2009 describes a raster map web
> application, requiring internet connectivity and a remote server. It states
> "By starting to develop the solutions now, we?ll be ready when the
> technology comes along in a few years time. The solution described in this
> article is to be considered as ?proof of concept?"
> 
> A few years from 2009 is today! And I think the app I've created for iPhone
> is approximately what that World of O mobile phone article was looking
> forward to.
> 
> This app is (almost) all you need for orienteering (and ARDF) right on your
> cell phone or tablet: the map, the compass, the course, and the ability to
> record your track and bearings. You can hold it all in one hand. No
> internet. No 2-year contract. Not even a SIM card is required.
> 
> 73,
> Charles
> NZ0I
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:59:52 -0500
>> From: Vadim Afonkin <vadim.afonkin at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ARDF] ARDF Digest, Vol 100, Issue 2
>> To: ardf at kkn.net
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>> I made a similar iPhone application about a year ago - it was taking a
>> bearings and calculating fox locations, putting it on the map and even
>> could guide you to the location, telling how far you are, etc., but I have
>> abandoned project because iPhone has a such poor quality compass - it can
>> give you errors up to 90 degrees.
>> I came to conclusion if I want to get a good application with precise fox
>> location calculations and guidance I need to use external compass.
>> I made one and testing it. The errors I am getting with small external
>> compass is only +/-2 degrees. You really need to use good tilt compensated
>> and compact compass. I am using HMC6343, it is a best IMHO. Not chip but
>> nice - all in one - $95 from DK.
>> 
>> Anyway - I am a big supporter of this idea. I believe I already sent you C
>> code to calculate fox locations for iPhone.
>> 
>> Regarding Orienteering - you can get all you need for orienteering on
>> iPhone and Android from here:
>> 
>> http://news.worldofo.com/2009/11/19/orienteering-map-gps-part-iii-mobile-phones/
>> 
>> I tried it on iPhone and it worked for me.
>> 
>> 73!
>> Vadim
>> KB1RLI
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>> 
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