[Cwo] Public Logs and LCRs
Marshall "Matt" Thomas, WX5S
mmthoma at attglobal.net
Wed Nov 27 12:00:57 PST 2013
Hi!
If you guys are interested, this is what a CQP LCR looks like....
We report the reason(s) for any point reduction.
We also report if the other guy busts the call or if the Q was
logged on an incorrect band or mode (note that this can
actually increase the score as it did below). There are other things
that this does like a histogram of mults worked.
If there is a dupe, we take the highest scoring Q and consider
the other as the dupe, no matter which was "first". Since each
QSO: line represents just 1/2 of the 2-way Q. It is possible
for 2 stations to get credit for a different Q. I make a mistake
on our first Q. You make a mistake on our second Q. I get full
credit for the 2nd one and you get full credit for the first one.
There are other special things that can actually increase the score
in CQP! You get 1/2 credit if there is only one error in the Q.
Turns out that if that one error was on the mult name, it gets corrected
and the actual mult gets awarded! G4RRA gained the SBEN mult
as a result of log check! He got credit for 50 mults instead of the 49
that he claimed.
Weirdly enough, if you bust the callsign, that is only 1/2 credit deduction.
Our callsign matcher is, to my knowledge, the best there is.
It is more than N+1, it is N+1+ and can find callsign matches that a logging
program cannot, like W5ACB matches W5ABC or WD5AB matches
W5DAB and other situations. Sometimes this critter even surprises me!
Currently, the final results are extracted from the LCR's. That is the
LS: (line score) line which is in a CSV format. Basically the reporting
SW just greps the LS: lines from all LCR reports and that can be
used in a spreadsheet or whatever.
We are re-writing the CQP process for 2014. Scoring CQP is
a complicated critter. CWO is a more "traditional" contest - hey
if there is an error, the Q doesn't count and that's it. Of course there
is only one mode, so this mode error stuff doesn't apply. However
there is the possibility of logging on the wrong band. I don't know
what you guys want to do about that. A requirements document,
that details your scoring rules and what you want to happen would
be helpful.
Anyway, although my focus is on CQP with all its weirdness, I am
hopeful that some subset of our features are applicable to CWO.
CWO will have to be a separate program, but hopefully the CQP
code can be adapted for CWO.
I have been spectacularly unsuccessful at getting access to the
CQ WW log check code. If somebody with better political skills
that I could take this on, that would be helpful. John, K6MM maybe?
73, Matt WX5S
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G4RRA QTH:DX
CQP LOG CHECKING RESULTS
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-01 1715 G4RRA 003 DX W6SX 119 MONT
Points were reduced because of: Err_qth=MONO
QSO: 21000 PH 2011-10-01 1728 G4RRA 011 DX W6UE 162 LANG
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0152
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-01 1831 G4RRA 046 DX W6ZE 026 ORAN
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=036
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-01 1833 G4RRA 047 DX KI6LZ 149 LANG
Points were reduced because of: Err_qth=VENT
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-01 2005 G4RRA 079 DX NK6A 390 LANG
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0290
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-01 2008 G4RRA 080 DX K6WC 140 SBER
Points were reduced because of: Err_qth=SBEN
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-01 2022 G4RRA 085 DX KF6T 379 PLAC
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0389
QSO: 14000 CW 2011-10-01 2110 G4RRA 089 DX K6RB 474 SCRU
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0375
QSO: 14000 CW 2011-10-01 2126 G4RRA 092 DX AA6PW 449 ORAN
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0559
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-02 1827 G4RRA 109 DX W6UE 1787 LANG
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=1797
QSO: 28000 CW 2011-10-02 1836 G4RRA 114 DX K6GT 921 SCLA
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0923
Comment: G4RRA busted as G3RRA
QSO: 28000 CW 2011-10-02 1840 G4RRA 116 DX NI6T 2043 TEHA
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0421
QSO: 28000 CW 2011-10-02 1855 G4RRA 122 DX AA6PW 1730 ORAN
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=1720
Comment: G4RRA busted as G4RAA
QSO: 28000 CW 2011-10-02 1908 G4RRA 127 DX W6YX 2570 SCLA
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0257
QSO: 28000 CW 2011-10-02 1911 G4RRA 129 DX W6OSP 741 NAPA
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0841
QSO: 28000 PH 2011-10-02 1937 G4RRA 135 DX N6O 1203 CCOS
Full Credit was given for this QSO
Comment: Should be 10m CW - no penalty
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-02 2013 G4RRA 145 DX K6AQL 350 MONT
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=35
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-02 2015 G4RRA 147 DX K6LA 2213 LANG
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=2312
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-02 2015 G4RRA 148 DX NO6F 1705 SMAT
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=1805
QSO: 21000 PH 2011-10-02 2103 G4RRA 155 DX KI6LZ 1398 LANG
Points were reduced because of: Err_qth=VENT
QSO: 21000 PH 2011-10-02 2112 G4RRA 157 DX N6PN 452 CCOS
Full Credit was given for this QSO
Comment: Should be 15m CW - no penalty
QSO: 21000 CW 2011-10-02 2117 G4RRA 159 DX AC6YY 195 SCLA
Points were reduced because of: Err_nr=0295
QSO: 14000 CW 2011-10-02 2159 G4RRA 178 DX K6WC 796 SBER
Points were reduced because of: Err_qth=SBEN
Summary:
G4RRA QTH: DX
Before Log Checking:
Total Raw QSO's: 178 CW: 102 PH: 76
Claimed Mults: 49
QSO Points Claimed: 458
Claimed Score: 22442
After Log Checking:
Duplicate QSO's: 0
Total Valid (non-dupe) QSO's: 178
CW QSO's: Full Credit: 83 Half-Credit: 19 No-credit (NIL or
Multiple Errors): 0
PH QSO's: Full Credit: 74 Half-Credit: 2 No-credit (NIL or Multiple
Errors): 0
Total QSO's verified in other logs or judged by humans: 169 or 95 percent
Checked Mults: 50
QSO Points granted: 427.5
FINAL SCORE: 21375
Histogram shows the number of times each mult was worked for credit:
3 ALAM 2 ALPI 4 AMAD 0 BUTT 3 CALA 6 CCOS 1 COLU 0 DELN
9 ELDO 2 FRES 0 GLEN 0 HUMB 3 IMPE 5 INYO 0 KERN 2 KING
1 LAKE 10 LANG 3 LASS 1 MADE 3 MARN 1 MARP 1 MEND 0 MERC
3 MODO 2 MONO 2 MONT 2 NAPA 4 NEVA 7 ORAN 6 PLAC 1 PLUM
1 RIVE 4 SACR 4 SBAR 2 SBEN 4 SBER 12 SCLA 7 SCRU 14 SDIE
1 SFRA 1 SHAS 2 SIER 1 SISK 3 SJOA 5 SLUI 3 SMAT 2 SOLA
8 SONO 0 STAN 1 SUTT 3 TEHA 1 TRIN 3 TULA 1 TUOL 5 VENT
0 YOLO 3 YUBA
G4RRA
LS,G4RRA , Version 2.2 - 2008 , 178 , 0 , 49 , 102 , 76 , 22442 ,169
, 0 , 19 , 0 , 2 , 50 , 21375 , DX , DX
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:54 PM, John Miller <webaron at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dean:
>
> Posting the Logs is EZ. Just a list with links.
>
> LCRs requires more work: Step 1) generating the LCR itself as a custom
> report and then Step 2) privately emailing the recipient, since each is a
> private report.
>
> For Step 1, we don't have the resources to automatically generate the LCRs
> but perhaps if you ask nicely, the WPX guys can share their software tools
> with us. For Step 2, we just need manpower to send the emails out once the
> LCR reports are ready.
>
> 73,
> John, K6MM
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:47 AM, D Faklis wrote:
>
> Update: I received comments from four: K6RB, W6SX, WX5S, NW2K, all in
> support, if resources permit.
>
> John K6MM, can you tell us if we can do something like CQ WPX on our website
> (for 2014):
>
> Logs: http://www.cqwpx.com/publiclogs/
> LCRs: http://www.cqwpx.com/lcr/
>
> If so, do we have the resources to do it? If we are lacking, what is
> needed?
>
> All, any additional comments, please send. Thanks!
>
> 73, Dean, NW2K
>
>
> From: D Faklis <dfaklis at yahoo.com>
> To: "cwo at kkn.net" <cwo at kkn.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:57 PM
> Subject: Public Logs and LCRs
> In the spirit of education and continuous improvement, I would like to have
> a discussion on whether or not to make the CWO logs and LCRs public
> (available for download at the CWops website).
>
> As you know, CQ WW, CQ WPX, CQ WW RTTY, and perhaps other serious contests,
> make the logs (and in some cases LCRs) public.
>
> Please comment. Thank you.
>
> 73, Dean, NW2K
>
>
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