[Cwo] Update needed

[Alan Maenchen]

Thanks Pete!

Near the end of the result writeup, I talk about SO2R a little. Personally,
I was SO1R. I checked with most of the Session "top ten" and they were all
SO2R.  I want to push for SO2R disclosure next year in a way similar to
what we did with "Assisted" this time. We'll see if that works as well.

I have SO2R at home, but I've never been able to do it with much success.
It's a grey matter problem more than anything technical. I have a choice ..
go to W6NV on top of the mountain with lots of aluminum and do SO1R, or
stay home on my small city lot, SO2R, and look up at the mountain. Oh
well...

73, Alan  AD6E






On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Peter Chamalian <w1rm at arrl.net> wrote:

> The plaques and trophies that I saw in the photo that Alan had looked
> great and I think that photo should be incorporated in announcements
> somewhere or other.****
>
> ** **
>
> I’ve found skimmer has its own vagaries – stations not on the frequency
> reported, calls wrong, etc., but it’s no different than packet spots.****
>
> ** **
>
> It wasn’t reported in the results, but I wonder if any of the winners did
> not do SO2R.  For me, that’s the breaking technology – I don’t have it and
> never will.****
>
> ** **
>
> Alan, I thank you and the team for all the hard work both in getting this
> event organized as well as working with all the logs and results.  If you
> listen with an ear to the East you will hear a faint voice yelling Bravo!*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Pete, W1RM****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Alan Maenchen [mailto:ad6e at arrl.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:30 PM
> *To:* Hank Garretson
> *Cc:* cwo at kkn.net
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Cwo] Update needed****
>
> ** **
>
> I'll give you my personal view.
>
>
> In CWO packet was a loser.  Well, not so much a loser, but ineffective
> since almost no one was posting spots. Had folks been posting spots that
> might change things.  Skimmer was useful for at least a couple of people
> (including Hank) who told me about it.  K5OT was adamant against it.
>
> Personally, I think technology such as Skimmer is an advance on the state
> of the art .. especially if it's a local Skimmer running on your own
> station.  Global Skimmer (or packet) is a different matter as that is
> direct assistance from others. In CWO, I can see how it can help.
>
> On a positive note, most of the CWO Session winners did not use any form
> of assistance .. or at least they didn't claim to.  That brings up the
> other side of the coin;  a ban on packet/skimmer is unenforceable.
>
> Let's wait for a month or so before making any decisions about this. I
> want to see if there is any ground swell of support/opposition from the
> populace.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> ****
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Hank Garretson <w6sx at arrl.net> wrote:****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Jim Talens <jtalens at verizon.net> wrote:**
> **
>
> I don’t think packet makes much difference in this one, and I would think
> as a separate classification it would complicate adjudication.****
>
>  ****
>
>
> You're right. Packet wouldn't make much difference for CWO. But ...
>
> I can tell you from experience that Skimmer spots coming via Telnet from
> RBN made a huge difference for me. Every time a new call popped up, I saw
> it immediately and was able to click on it and work the guy without losing
> my run frequency. It helped me know which bands had the action. I estimate
> that one third of my QSOs came from Telnet RBN spots. Whether I would have
> eventually worked the guys anyway is another question. Telnet RBN increased
> my CWO enjoyment a big bunch.
>
> This is a double edged razor. During the last session, Telnet RBN also
> told me when I had worked each band clean and prompted me to pull the big
> switch early.
>
> Please don't disallow Telnet RBN.
>
> Packet is dead. Long live Skimmer.
>
> (As a fifty-five-year contester, I never thought I'd be saying what I just
> said. I always poo-pawed those poor guys who used the assisted crutch. Goes
> to show, never say never.)  ****
>
>
>
> Ski Exuberantly,
>
> Hank, W6SX
>
> Mammoth Lakes, California
>
> Elevation 8083 feet in John Muir's Range of Light****
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cwo mailing list
> Cwo at kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/mailman/listinfo/cwo****
>
> ** **
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.kkn.net/pipermail/cwo/attachments/20111206/ba153385/attachment.html