[Cwo] CW OPEN sked change

Chuck-NO5W no5w at consolidated.net
Sun Aug 21 16:14:32 PDT 2011

If that's the last full weekend in September there's the CQWW RTTY and 
the Texas QSO Party, both popular events in the CW portion of the bands.

On 8/21/2011 4:01 PM, Rob wrote:
> Gents:
> I've had another look at the perpetual calendar and the last weekend of
> September (which precedes by one week the Cal QSO Party) has only one
> conflict - RSG
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Alan Maenchen <mailto:ad6e at arrl.net>
>     *To:* Rob <mailto:k6rb at baymoon.com>
>     *Cc:* Peter Chamalian <mailto:w1rm at arrl.net> ; Jim Talens
>     <mailto:jtalens at verizon.net> ; KZ5D at aol.com <mailto:KZ5D at aol.com> ;
>     cwo at kkn.net <mailto:cwo at kkn.net>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:28 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: CW OPEN sked change
>     I've been on an IOTA expedition and generated some HUGE pileups.
>     It's a big deal in EU and growing in NA.
>     Need to look at the rules to see if the split format of CWO would
>     really cause trouble or not. We assumed RDA was no big deal either
>     and learned the hard way not to brush off these events as "minor".
>     Alan
>     On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Rob <k6rb at baymoon.com
>     <mailto:k6rb at baymoon.com>> wrote:
>         __
>         Alan,
>         I would opt for doing the CW OPEN on the 4th weekend of August.
>         The only conflict is RSGB IOTA. Big deal! We might lose K6VVA in
>         that one (hi). It would avoid a lot of other stuff and still
>         have the event occur roughly around the time it did this time.
>         Having a winter CWO would be tough but perhaps there's a
>         possibility. I would rather get an annual CWO refined to where
>         it was a well-attended and fun event. We're definitely on the
>         way to accomplishing that.
>         Rob K6RB
>             ----- Original Message -----
>             *From:* Alan Maenchen <mailto:ad6e at arrl.net>
>             *To:* Bruce Horn <mailto:bhorn at hornucopia.com>
>             *Cc:* Rob <mailto:k6rb at baymoon.com> ; Peter Chamalian
>             <mailto:w1rm at arrl.net> ; Jim Talens
>             <mailto:jtalens at verizon.net> ; KZ5D at aol.com
>             <mailto:KZ5D at aol.com> ; cwo at kkn.net <mailto:cwo at kkn.net>
>             *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:25 AM
>             *Subject:* Re: CW OPEN sked change
>             Bruce,
>             Look at the positive side: I made a bunch of QSOs in NAQP
>             SSB while waiting for the next CWO session. I would not have
>             made any SSB QSOs if it were not for CWO. :-) I'd like to
>             see data on how CWO affected NAQP participation this year.
>             My gut feel is that it was a minimal impact, but I could be
>             wrong. I love NAQP CW, but I've never entered the SSB (or
>             RTTY) version.
>             The big problem for CWO was RDA and Keyman contests. It's
>             impossible to pick any weekend that has no conflicts.
>             However, I think we were clobbered by those two events that
>             limited CWO to a NA only event. That is unfortunate.
>             Interestingly, we only received one complaint about stepping
>             on those toes. That was from a DL who warned about the RDA
>             activity.
>             I agree with Rob that it was too early in the planning stage
>             to do a July event. However, we need to think seriously
>             about a different date. I've already had a request for a
>             winter CWO, but I doubt that would be possible.
>             73, Alan AD6E
>             On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Bruce Horn
>             <bhorn at hornucopia.com <mailto:bhorn at hornucopia.com>> wrote:
>                 Hi Rob,
>                 As the manager of the NAQP SSB contest I certainly would
>                 like to see the CW Open moved to a weekend that didn't
>                 conflict with the NAQP, which has been scheduled on the
>                 3rd full weekend in August for a very long time.
>                 However, the 3rd weekend in July is the perpetual date
>                 of the NAQP-RTTY contest.
>                 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com
>                 <mailto:bhorn at hornucopia.com>)
>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 *From: *"Rob" <k6rb at baymoon.com <mailto:k6rb at baymoon.com>>
>                 *To: *"Bruce Horn" <bhorn at hornucopia.com
>                 <mailto:bhorn at hornucopia.com>>
>                 *Cc: *"Alan Maenchen" <ad6e at arrl.net
>                 <mailto:ad6e at arrl.net>>, "Peter Chamalian"
>                 <w1rm at arrl.net <mailto:w1rm at arrl.net>>, "Jim Talens"
>                 <jtalens at verizon.net <mailto:jtalens at verizon.net>>,
>                 KZ5D at aol.com <mailto:KZ5D at aol.com>
>                 *Sent: *Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:54:38 AM
>                 *Subject: *CW OPEN sked change
>                 Bruce,
>                 I think there's a concensus to change the date for next
>                 year's CW OPEN to that weekend in July (July 23, 2011,
>                 this year) where there are virtually no conflicts. We
>                 were too far down the road, this year, to change it. I
>                 see in your perpetual calendar that that weekend looks
>                 really good. Has anything changed on that score? If not,
>                 I would estimate it's about a 99 percent likelihood that
>                 next year's CW OPEN and all subsequent ones will be on
>                 that third weekend of July timeframe.
>                 This year, we ran into some problems because of the
>                 Russian RDA and Japan's "keyman." We'd like to avoid
>                 that conflict and the one with NAQP SSB, too.
>                 Let me know. Thanks for your major help in score
>                 submittal, Bruce. It makes a huge difference.
>                 Rob K6RB
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