[Cwo] CW OPEN sked change

Rob k6rb at baymoon.com
Sun Aug 21 13:47:26 PDT 2011

I'm not sure an IOTA expedition and an IOTA contest would have the same impact. We need to see how long these IOTA contests are, how many players they get, and so on, before dismissing it out of hand. The IOTA is the only one listed for the 4th weekend in July. So, we would conflict with one event instead of several (RDA, keyman, NAQP phone). I personally have never done an IOTA contest, so I have no idea how many get involved, but I'm sure that it couldn't be as disruptive as the RDA on 20 m. As Alan has said, it's well nigh impossible to find a weekend with no conflict. So, the next best thing is to find a weekend with less conflict.

On the plus side:

- it's after IARU
- it's not competing with a really popular contest

Rob K6RB

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alan Maenchen 
  To: Rob 
  Cc: Peter Chamalian ; Jim Talens ; KZ5D at aol.com ; cwo at kkn.net 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CW OPEN sked change

  I've been on an IOTA expedition and generated some HUGE pileups. It's a big deal in EU and growing in NA.

  Need to look at the rules to see if the split format of CWO would really cause trouble or not.  We assumed RDA was no big deal either and learned the hard way not to brush off these events as "minor". 


  On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Rob <k6rb at baymoon.com> wrote:


    I would opt for doing the CW OPEN on the 4th weekend of August. The only conflict is RSGB IOTA. Big deal! We might lose K6VVA in that one (hi). It would avoid a lot of other stuff and still have the event occur roughly around the time it did this time. Having a winter CWO would be tough but perhaps there's a possibility. I would rather get an annual CWO refined to where it was a well-attended and fun event. We're definitely on the way to accomplishing that.

    Rob K6RB
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Alan Maenchen 
      To: Bruce Horn 
      Cc: Rob ; Peter Chamalian ; Jim Talens ; KZ5D at aol.com ; cwo at kkn.net 
      Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:25 AM
      Subject: Re: CW OPEN sked change


      Look at the positive side:  I made a bunch of QSOs in NAQP SSB while waiting for the next CWO session.  I would not have made any SSB QSOs if it were not for CWO.   :-)    I'd like to see data on how CWO affected NAQP participation this year. My gut feel is that it was a minimal impact, but I could be wrong.  I love NAQP CW, but I've never entered the SSB (or RTTY) version.

      The big problem for CWO was RDA and Keyman contests.  It's impossible to pick any weekend that has no conflicts. However, I think we were clobbered by those two events that limited CWO to a NA only event.  That is unfortunate.  Interestingly, we only received one complaint about stepping on those toes.  That was from a DL who warned about the RDA activity.

      I agree with Rob that it was too early in the planning stage to do a July event. However, we need to think seriously about a different date.  I've already had a request for a winter CWO, but I doubt that would be possible.

      73, Alan  AD6E

      On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Bruce Horn <bhorn at hornucopia.com> wrote:

        Hi Rob,

        As the manager of the NAQP SSB contest I certainly would like to see the CW Open moved to a weekend that didn't conflict with the NAQP, which has been scheduled on the 3rd full weekend in August for a very long time. However, the 3rd weekend in July is the perpetual date of the NAQP-RTTY contest.

        73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn at hornucopia.com)


        From: "Rob" <k6rb at baymoon.com>
        To: "Bruce Horn" <bhorn at hornucopia.com>
        Cc: "Alan Maenchen" <ad6e at arrl.net>, "Peter Chamalian" <w1rm at arrl.net>, "Jim Talens" <jtalens at verizon.net>, KZ5D at aol.com
        Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:54:38 AM
        Subject: CW OPEN sked change 


        I think there's a concensus to change the date for next year's CW OPEN to that weekend in July (July 23, 2011, this year) where there are virtually no conflicts. We were too far down the road, this year, to change it. I see in your perpetual calendar that that weekend looks really good. Has anything changed on that score? If not, I would estimate it's about a 99 percent likelihood that next year's CW OPEN and all subsequent ones will be on that third weekend of July timeframe.

        This year, we ran into some problems because of the Russian RDA and Japan's "keyman." We'd like to avoid that conflict and the one with NAQP SSB, too.

        Let me know. Thanks for your major help in score submittal, Bruce. It makes a huge difference.

        Rob K6RB


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