[Cwo] CWO: Times, Class Entries, Awards

Fri Apr 29 14:42:36 PDT 2011

OK, let's see how it evolves.

Pete, W1RM

From: Alan Maenchen [mailto:ad6e at arrl.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:40 PM
To: Peter Chamalian
Cc: John Miller; cwo at kkn.net
Subject: Re: [Cwo] CWO: Times, Class Entries, Awards

Awards are without regard to ITU region.
This will be interesting to see who wins which time period since each time
period is theoretically optimized for each of the three ITU regions.
However, optimized high bands in one region may mean optimized low bands in
a different region.  :-)   For CWT it's pretty clear cut, but for CWO it's
not so obvious.

Yes, certificates are in the works. I haven't talked to John about that yet.
I assume it's workable since it's becoming more common in other events. The
minimum threshold for a certificate is 100 QSOs. That's an arbitrary level
open to change if there's a better idea.

73,  Alan  AD6E

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Peter Chamalian <w1rm at arrl.net> wrote:

I agree that ending at 00z is the way to go.  I think it's pretty clear that
the contest ends precisely on the stroke of xx00:00 and not xx00.59 (:->).

With regard to awards, at one time there was discussion about separating
into three regions representing ITU Regions.  Competition was to be within
each Region.  Now I realize this opens the awards to be x3 ($$$$).

Does it make sense to only have awards at such a high level?  Or, are we
talking about certificates in addition to the trophies?  Certificates could
be generated electronically and the winner could download/print at their
leisure?  PVRC does that with their reunion and the year they had an
anniversary, non PVRCers could participate and earn a certificate for
working n members (I remember that cuz I won it as a non member (:->))

Pete, W1RM

From: Alan Maenchen [mailto:ad6e at arrl.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:12 PM
To: John Miller
Cc: cwo at kkn.net
Subject: Re: [Cwo] CWO: Times, Class Entries, Awards

John,

Good questions. See below.
Alan

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:23 AM, John Miller <webaron at gmail.com> wrote:

I can make the changes to the website, but I have some comments.

Suggest leaving end times at 1600, 2400, and 0800.  Would allow a full QSO
for the last 59 seconds of the contest.  Easier to remember.  Almost all
contests are set up that way today: 

http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/perpetualcal.php

I had it that way until AE6Y recommended xx59Z.  
I just checked various ARRL rules.  Some end in 59Z and some end in 00Z so
it's a mixed bag.
I agree that ending in 00Z is much easier to remember. Given that this is
something new, it seems wise to end in 00Z

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Regarding:  Class Entry - "Single Operator Only".  Please confirm these 3
classes:

SO-QRP

SO-LP

SO-HP

Correct 

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Regarding "Awards" -- check my math and interpretation of these categories:

Let's define the CWO times as T1, T2, T3.

1. Trophy for 1st Place in each time period = 3 Trophies.  This rewards
individual participation for each time slot.

T1 high score

T2 high score

T3 high score

correct 

2. Plaque for 1st Place in each power level in each time period = 9 Plaques.
This rewards individual participation, for each individual Class Entry. 

T1: SO-QRP, SO-LP, SO-HP

T2: SO-QRP, SO-LP, SO-HP

T3: SO-QRP, SO-LP, SO-HP

Not correct. Actually 6 plaques since the top score in one of those
categories will get the trophy. 

3. Trophy for overall combined score of all 3 time periods = one trophy

T1 + T2 + T3 combined score

Note:  This almost certainly will be given to the person who enters all 3
times slots as SO-HP.  Basically, we're motivating and rewarding the SO-HP
operator here over everyone else.  Is that correct?.  Is that desired?

Yes plus plaques for the other power levels that didn't make #1  ..  (1
trophy and 2 plaques)

4.  Plaque for 1st Place for each power level in the combined score group =
3 Plaques.  This rewards participation in all 3 time slots, based on power
level.

SO-QRP:  T1 + T2 + T3 combined score

SO-LP:  T1 + T2 + T3 combined score

SO-HP:  T1 + T2 + T3 combined score

I think about it as 4 events each of which gets a trophy for #1 and plaques
for #1 in the (non-winning) other power levels.

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Regarding "Team Competition" - This is potentially confusing, because under
"Class Entry" we state "Single Operator Only".  Is "Team Competition" a
separate Class Entry?  Nothing stated about about plaques, trophies, power
levels, etc.  Are we giving out the same set of plaques and trophies for all
Team Competition entries too?  Need some clarification here.

Teams are just like NA teams or Sprint teams. They are completely separate
from the individual entry. No awards other than fame. This is the easiest
solution to "clubs" and promotes more signals on the air. 

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Regarding cwo at kkn.net:  Who is on this distribution list?

At present the list includes:
AD6E
K6RB
N1DG
KZ5D
WX5S
W1RM
K6MM

73,

John, K6MM

On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Alan Maenchen wrote:

Not sure where that error started.  The rules (attached) say 0400Z and have
since Rev 1.
BTW, I changed the end times to xx59Z per input from AE6Y (lawyer).

Rob:  I swapped some emails with Kazu, JK3GAD since he and I were team mates
in the recent ARRL DX here at Sunol Ridge (W6WB). I didn't realize he edits
the contest column for 59DX magazine. So, I sent him the rules as well just
now. I also suggested he stop by the CWops booth at Dayton and pick up a
button.

John, can you put these rules on the website?  I'm pointing to
http://www.cwops.org/cwopen.html
When I tell people about the event.  I would suggest a link only to a PDF of
the rules. I apologize for not making a PDF here up front. For some reason
OO is refusing to cooperate.

73, Alan  AD6E

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:39 AM, <k6rb at baymoon.com> wrote:

Guys,

In reading through the NCJ galley I realized there was an error made that
has been perpetuated and needs to be fixed ASAP.

The Visalia news release, the Webpage, and the article all list the time
slots at 1200-1600Z; 2000-2400Z; and 0800-1200Z. The last time slot is
WRONG!!!! What was described originally, and analyzed by N6BV was
0400-0800Z for the last time slot. I must have made the original error,
and it simply kept being repeated.

So...I will fix the article. John, you need to update the Webpage at URL
www.cwops.org/cwopen.html to have the correct last time slot. Sorry about
that.

Rob K6RB

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